Here is our new ventilation cabinet for alchemy, which uses outside makeup air, so as to not pull heated or air conditioned air out of the room and as a backup precaution against venting noxious vapors into the lab.
The makeup air slot is 3/4" wide and at the bottom of the makeup air plenum, and the exhaust plenum has a 3/4" inch slot at the bottom, to pick up heavier than air fumes, and a 3/4" slot at the top for the lighter than air fumes. The door uses a piano hinge and closed cell weather stripping for a seal.
The veiw window is 1/4" Lexan.
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Just curious as to your thoughts, it seems like most of these portable vape pens are not producing vapor. Some may be low enough temperatures I'm not certain, but I do know there is a fine line between vaporizing and smoking. Wether it be flower or oil it doesn't matter, temperature is key if you're going for maximum possible health benefits.
Can i use the frozen each method to create vaporizing oil? Correct me where needed 1. Freeze (non broken down) bud. 2. Put everclear in freezer.. 3. Perform 3 min (max) rinse. Bud in ziploc bag, pour in everclear, shake for a max of 3 mins.. Pour into seive and through filter (coffee or layered cheese cloth). Squeeze out oil absorbed into the cloth/filter. 4. Take liquid and slow double boil out the everclear in well ventilated area. 5. Slowed Boiling rate indicates higher percentage of oil present and most alcohol has slow boiled off. 6. Add about 20ml of propylene glycol to my approx. 5ml concentrate. This is if i use 1/4 lb Of bud. My question is tho, how to you freeze flush twice? Wouldnt the bud alrrady be wet from the previous flush? I thought the whole idea was to freeze the water soluble components and allow the oil to be extracted?
If you remove enough of the ethanol the decarbed absolute won't leak. I had the same problem but testing revealed several thousand ppm of residual ethanol. Get it below 300-400ppm and your good to go, no leaks. It also helps the oil flow better if the terpenes are over 10%.
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Why are you guys decarbing the absolute oil before adding it to your pens? Shouldn't the heat from the coil be enough to decarb, like any other vaporizer?
What many people don't realize is the consistency of your extract is based off the amount of intact thc-a vs decarboxylated thc. The more thc-a you convert into thc the more liquidy and oil like your extract will be at room temperature. In order to make oil that has a liquid enough constancy to be ran through e-tanks(were talking about e-liquid tanks not a bho atmomizer/cartomizer). You can use vg or pg as a solvent and dissolve your non-decarbed bho into it but decarbing the extract is the only way you will get full dose oil running through your tank!
I have used coconut oil @ 175 degrees to mix with hard shatter to make vape oil. Leave it thick, in a 510 atomizer, variable voltage battery, starting out at lowest setting and pulsing it for a full lungfull. Works great! Thanks a million for y'all's dedication and sharing of information!
I would suggest using either VG or PG for this purpose instead. Yes thc is fat soluable but there are plenty of solvents it dissolves into and you shouldn't be vaporizing all that fat. you can buy either of them on amazon very cheep thanks to the whole ecig revolution!
I'd like to step in another direction with the pens. Everybody seems to use the ego style pens (small diameter) with 510 connection. What about using the newer technology like mechanical mods or VV mods (large diameter). That use the IMR batteries like sony 18650. The atomizers they use are rebuildable atomizers like RBA (rebuildable atomizer) or RDA (rebuildable dripping atomizer), they work the same using a coil to heat up a wick. In my research RDA would be better suited for our use. I feel like using a mech mod with a RDA would give us what we want. Or am I just trying to reinvent the wheel?
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Hey Graywolf question if you heat up the stainless steel wire with the torch doesn't the wire melt also? I have no idea I tried to locate .045 diameter 17-4ph stainless steel weld wire at my local Airweld and they told me they don't make it any more. I got my hands on some wickless dual coil tanks that I want to try to put bho in carboxylic acid form. To see if i like it better. The tanks that I bought don't leak I put the oil in decarbox form and even if I lay it down the oil runs but it doesn't leak good shit but I have to some a lot to get medicated
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Hi Johnny! 17-4 Stainless has a higher melting point that achieved by a propane or butane torch without an attendant oxygen supply. Did they say that they had it in other wire diameters? 17-4 is an extremely common alloy in aerospace, so if the Airco rep said that it was discontinued as an alloy, he is grossly uniformed, or blowing smoke.
Hey, very interesting reading. I actually design and manufacture high end e-cig/Mods. Been slowly experimenting with different processes to extract THC to be used easily and effectively in an e-cig. The problem with my process is I need to keep the smell down as much as possible. I'm using everclear and heating light bulb in my desk lamp. The end result is "ok", not the best but it does work. I'm able to fill my tank and vape as I normally do. When I need that extra perk I just scrape some of my mixture onto the wick, gives me about 3-5 "good" hits before it's gone. After it's gone it just continue vaping my nicotine liquid. I also mix my own nicotine liquids from time to time. I'm looking forward to mixing some glycerin extract with my flavors to see what I can eventually come up with!! Again thank you for the post
hey i am starting my own vape pen company. will be using solventless resin. do you have any suggestions as far as which way to go with the pens specs.
I've developed an excellent e-juice thc juice that works wonders, you can use it in any tank!
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Ok! So I decided to buy an EPen, my luck I found eBay! I got a non branded brand new 1100mah Atmos RX aka Ago G5. It was $25 free shipping. And 2 vivi nova tanks for 7.50. I was determined to create a potent enough thc-e-juice, I've got crohns, and have had a hang mans break. I searched forums high n low here first. So 1st I just bought USP Glycerol thinking my BHO would mix n bam, I was wrong, so I kept looking, to no avail. I decided that I was going to try, after reading up on regular e-juice it clicked! So first I make my absolute amber. I decarb the oil not material.And winterize with the good everclear(sisters in Navy it's for sale at the BX (closed AFBase) for 17.35 a 5th no tax, I also got the best connect on COLIBRI. I blast through a filled coloumn into a jar with fresh material, I find I get much high saturation of oils. Once butane is evaded purged I use hot water(crock pot) thanks for that tip) I also take the material already butane soaked and do a QWISO. The butane and material stay sealed in the freezer, every so often I release pressure to promote boiling. Once the QWISO n BHO are dry I disolve in ethanol, winterize and purge here my developed juice part. I buy USP propylene glycol cheap on eBay, so il take a gram of amber and disolve it in just enough ethanol to keep it more liquid( bottle in microwave is quick) after the hot ethanol and amber fuse I then ad 40-30% propylene glycol. And 5% Glycerol. This will be about 6ml total give or take. I use a microwave safe bottle n nuke for 5 seconds. The mixture is perfect it doesn't seperate with temp and is potent! I also heat the PG with vanilla beans for flavor. My tank is 3.5ml a full one lasts for ever and it's a different high, more sedative. I vouch that from hours and hours of rollitup, ICBM, cannabis etc, no one has had any juice close to this. I highly recommend it. I'd only use natural vanilla bean for flavor. I have pics to. It's great! I hit it on public transportation, school, I asked a gangster dude if he wanted a hit n he thought it was nicotine so I'm very happy! I hope you try it!
Sounds confusing! Use decarbed essential canna oils. For general measuring use a shot glass(make it personal)! Other than decarbed oil, you will need grain alcohol, USP propylene glycol, USP Glycerin. In shot glass add 1/2-1 Gram of oil(decarbed), on top add a few ml of everclear or what grain alky you are using. Put shot glass with oil, and everclear in microwave for 5 seconds, this should facilitate the speed of oil into alky solubility, the end solution should be pourable, but thick enough to leave a trail similar to maple syrup. To this I usually add 1x oil solution to 1x 70/30 pg/VG that has been infused with vanilla, best taste, no smell, beats any flavored juice w/o nicotines to mix with.
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The Diamond Vapez wax/oil e pen works nice, vaps sooner than the micro g's. Also the charge lasted longer...best thing the atomizer is removable for easy cleaning.
That is all I use now is my pen vaporizers, no more combustion for me. The taste is great, the effects are great, and the convenience cannot be beat. Not to mention odor. It is a must for many people, especially for those in federal housing programs. You can't have your neighbors smelling marijuana, whether it be the smell of the buds or the smell from smoking. With concentrated oil and a pen vaporizer properly used, that solves many problems for many people. My favorite is the eGo C Twist variable voltage with an iClear16 dual heating element rebuildable for less than $3. My other favorite is the innokin SVD with an iClear30. This one delivers the best hit for me. I take my premium RSO, melt it in a small pan, stir in some Propylene Glycol USP, and it works great! It is hard for me to picture it being any better. I prefer that over vaporizing the oil straight for sure.
Thank you for your wonderful resources you are sharing for all to learn! Excuse my ignorance, I have been studying BHO extraction for about 3 months now but I have never heard of "winterizing" or "winterizing filters" before; could you please enlighten me? My friend is completing our first extractor soon and eel have been preparing for our first extraction carefully to achieve high quality results and I don't want to leave anything out after all of this hard work. I have just purchased a Flash/Column Chromatography system from an online auction in the hopes that it will complement these efforts. I have also invented a new type of heating element for "vaping pen" technology that will last virtually "forever" with the capability to handle the thickest of oils and waxes, without any wick or resistance coil wire heating elements, retrofittable to 510-type batteries - and will clean up in 5 minutes with alcohol. I hope to share this with the community within two months. Regards, Mark the Aardvark New England
Check out http://skunkpharmresearch.com/getting-the-green-and-waxes-out-afterwards/ for winterizing. Look forward to hearing more about your new pen technology!
Many thanks! And I also look forward to seeing it come to fruition.
Ok i am determined to get this to work lol.tell me if this will work please. I have some dry sift that i am going to make bho with after i purge it to get absolute i need to winterize right ? to do that i desolve in everclear freeze and filter and decarb and evaporate the alcohol right ? I am really lost after i make the bho...Thanks for all your help
You extract the dry sieve using bho, and as soon as the butane is visibly bone, add the alcohol and stick in the freezer to precipitate out the waxes, so that they can be removed by filtration.
It is certainly still a WIP, but, I have 2 kangertechs ... protank, and a miniprotank (the one I had when I was at the Alcohol Extraction class last month). While admittedly when the clearomizer is unscrewed from the battery there is some leakage from the center hole, and once in a while this leakage is enough to interrupt the electrical connection between the clearomizer, and the battery ... but not that often, and a cotton cuetip with ethanol fixes that in a jiffy, .... I have experienced no leakage to the outside of the unit, and the internal leakage is not large either. I decarboxylate less than the 70% to maintain greater 'stiffness' in the oil, and also, I don't know if this makes a difference, but I only use Absolute Amber, or QWET from kif in my pens. Whatever, I load and charge my 2 pens on average once a week, and leave them in my car til the next weeks recharge ...... without external leakage, and only rarely an electrical connection issue. Having said all that, there is still plenty of room for improvement!!! Btw, I have been using a higher resistance kangertech atomizer than the original ... 2.2 ohms rather than the standard 1.8 ohms. The higher resistance has the effect of lowering the coil temperature a bit, but, still more than hot enough for vaporization, making for a cooler puff.
Taste .... the final frontier in pen vaporizers. Although I suppose taste isn't critical to medicinal value (but I'm not even sure about that) it sure makes the experience more enjoyable. Up until very recently, despite the fact that an e-pen with a loaded 'cart' is a clean and very easy way to medicate, and is always within reach, several times a day, I would still make the effort to load up my oil-well, and 'vape' the 'old-fashioned' way.... It was that much more enjoyable. Not any more, however .... its not worth the effort. I finally got my e-pen .... hummin'. I use a KangerTech cartomizer with a bottom heated atomizer, and heat tempered glass body. The 'cart' is sold as 'wickless', since the heating element is on the bottom, gravity feeds the atomizer. On close inspection of the atomizer (the 'cart' completely disassembles - all parts replaceable), I noticed a small piece of wick circumnavigating the atomizer opening. With that tiny wick in place, the taste was still mediocre - at best. I removed the wick from a replacement atomizer, and used it in the original 'cart'............ Bingo ..... the sweet taste of absolute amber ..... in an e-pen. Not only does it taste good, but, a full sized 'hit' is no problem. The e-pen even gurgles and hisses just like the e-cigs do with nicotine laced 'juice', when the power button is pushed (I am using fully decarboxylated absolute amber, and it still has a delightful fore-taste as well as after taste). Needless to say, my oil-well is in retirement, ready for emergency duty only. If I successfully arrive in Portland tomorrow night with my medicine intact (I am flying on Southwest), my 'tasty cart' will be available for sampling at class on Friday. Cya then Steve
Good points bro, and we have finished testing a gaggle of e-pens with oil skillets instead of modified 510 carts, that I need to get summarized and posted. In a word, advancement continues to be swift and the products just keep getting better. Looking forward to checking out yours! GW
Heavy BHO or ISO will begin to leak from any bottom coil clearomizer, whether Kanger Mini Protank ( glass) , Mini Kanger T3S, or GS-H2. If you fill roughly 100 clearomizers with 1 gram each slowly over the course of a few days they will begin to leak from center hole. ( all clearomizers were checked for defects prior to filling ).( care was taken not to over tighten ).
btw, I forgot to ask in the previous post .... and things may be somewhat different down here in SoCal, but ...... I am having no success, either locally, or, on the net in my quest to buy a glass syringe. Tiny plastic syringes are easy (the kind junkies use) mostly made for diabetics, but a big old fashioned glass syringe ..... wherever I ask for them I get looked at like I'm a junkie ... its quite intimidating .... and on the net I find syringes but they end up being plastic ..... where can I get a glass (possibly even heat tempered glass) syringe with a large bore needle (mostly to refill carts)? TIA Steve
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Thank you .... I saw them there, but found what I needed on Amazon. The glass syringe that I would have liked is called a control syringe ... It has 3 finger/thumb rings to allow one handed syringe operation ... but at $3-500 apiece, I settled for a conventional heat resistant glass 10 ml syringe for $20. I found the perfect cartomizer (clearomizer), finally. KangerTech Mini Pro-Tank II. It has a heat resistant glass body, and comes with both a 1.8 and 2.4 ohm atomizer. These are bottom heating elements, so no wick. There is (was) a tiny wick at the bottom which I removed easily ... I am using the 2.4 ohm atomizer at the moment. I am using fully decarboxylated absolute amber, which is just 'mushy' enough to keep feeding the bottom heating element. The draw is better as well because the tube is a larger bore. Besides working on demand, with a standard 3.7 volt base, ... it actually tastes good. Still not as much flavor as my oilwell ... but the same good flavor, at least. The syringe made filling the 'cart', much easier, btw Cya Friday Steve
I am fairly new to portable vaporizers They have obviously improved them, and this is probably why I have not encountered the leak problems mentioned earlier. I have access to a variety of carts and battery cases, and have a few observations. The standard 510 battery and case is where I began my 'journey. There appears to be 2 basic cart types. The standard one is clear with 2 wicks. There is also a 'better' quality variety, also clear, with no visible wicks (they are inside the center column, I think). My experience (quite limited) was that the cart without exposed wicks was a nonstarter .... no vapor with a standard battery (the only type I was aware of at the time). As I had encountered no leakage problems, and had a hard time believing that my units would work reliably with absolute amber in the shatter form, to continuously give me a vapor hit ..... I concentrated on producing a decarboxylated pristine absolute amber ..... boiling off the alcohol almost completely, and then in a stainless steel ramekin, I quickly boil off the remaining ethanol, and decarboxylate as quickly as possible (to preserve as much THC as possible). I then inject this (goo) in the cart when it has cooled somewhat, but, still 'liquidy'. I can lay my 'pen' down, or store it in any position without leaks, though the decarboxylated oil definitely flows (very slowly) within the cart. At first, the standard battery gives a fairly adequate vape ( I believe the fact that some oil gets in the center hole on filling helps the initial puffs ). After a bit, the vaped 'doses' get smaller however ..... it becomes more and more difficult to bet more than a 'maintenance' dose ..... another reason probably is that the lighter portions of the oil get used up earlier nd the remaining heavier oils need more temp to vape. This led me an excellent solution ..... the variable voltage battery. There are quite a few these days .... I have been using the 'Fluid Raptor' brand unit. What I've found is that at about 3.8 volts, I get a full 'dose' initially, with a cart full (to the line) of decarboxylate. After some time the doses get smaller ..... time to bump up the voltage ... a tenth of a volt at a time. At about 4.3 volts the heaviest of remaining oil will vaporize satisfactorily. It is amazing how long a filled cart will last, btw. I have been medicating for over 45 years, quite heavily for the most part ... I would think my tolerance is just about as high as it could be ..... (smoking a couple of ounces of top quality bud a week). Until I made my 1st batch of 'Holy Shit', nothing I had eaten had more than almost unnoticeable effect, in amounts that immobilized others, because I had so much THC already in my system. An eyedropperful of 'holy shit' however, is very effective for me. I have not done a scientific study, by any means, but, 2 ounces of Skywalker OG (what I grow) will easily give me 6 grams of Absolute Amber (more actually, but for simplicity sake). Using my oilwell, that will easily last more than a week ... much more. Lately, I only use my Fluid e-cig (not even the oil-well) .... It keeps me satisfied, and I quite casually use it wherever I am .... restaurants, bowling alleys, smoke free downtowns like Burbank or Calabasas, as well as home ..... I will be flying up to Portland for the extraction class ..... I checked, and unfortunately, Southwest has an explicit ban on e-cigs ...... thank goodness for 'holy shit' !!!! The portable vape pens appear to be very efficient/economical....... it seems like a 2 ml cart lasts me a week or more ... astounding really .... my consumption is down by 2/3s..... and my lungs are so much clearer, as well...... thanks to the great information on this site Looking forward to meeting you all on Friday the 13th for the Alcohol Extraction Class Thanks again Steve
J.D. Great day to you, I was at the July class too, and wondering if waters@headydesign is the same guy with the mini G pens?
No, that was a different student.
Was present at the July bho class where we got to see several vape pens. One in particular was glass and offered a dosage that primed and seen through the site glass. This particular vape functioned quite well but I didn't catch its name. Do you recall?
The carrying case is labeled eGo, but you might contact Ryan at Headie Designs for the fine details. Looks like he can be reached at Waters@HeadieDesigns.com.
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I am wondering if Ryan ever sent you one of his I-CON Pro vaporizers and, if yes, if you are testing it yet. My ultimate goal is making my own extract for use in one of these pen vaporizers (That and to use in edibles.) but it's hard to find good reviews and I'm not willing to spend a Benjamin to find out if it works or not. p.s. - I'm drooling over your classes and am trying to justify spending the airfare from AZ to attend a BHO class.
No I-Con Pro vaporizers arrived for testing. Always waiting with bait on mah breath for new toys to test!
I would not recommend using an e-go battery (3.7-3.8V) for this. You are way better off getting VV/VW mod PV. I got a Vamo that can go up to 6V or 15W depending on addy resistence. The Vision STV Nova Tank Clearomizer addys I have work well for me. You can get the Vamo for about $40, and the addy for $12 (There are cheaper addys out there like the Kanger MT3 shown in this article for $6, but IMHO going chep on your addy is never a good idea.) **Prices from www.exhalevapors.com I have use a STV Nova w/ a Vamo to vape regularly. I usually purchase ((haven't tried making my own yet.) some VG cannabis extract tincand mix 4 parts of this VG with 1 part plain PG (super cheap). I sometimes add some flavoring as well. This combo vapes well at 9-10W. Cutting the VG with PG reduces clogs and the necessary wattage, so if you used 30% PG instead of 20% like me, It will vape even better and you can turn the power down on the VAMO, but you sacrifice on taste and potency. Happy Vaping!
Thanks for the input DG! Not sure why we would need more battery capacity, when we are able to vaporize straight oil with what we have. Have you tried any vapor pens using straight oil yet?
I''m curious about how to thin some good winterized bho with straight propylene glycol. Any thoughts on this, or links to further discussions? Grams of dabs are everywhere in clubs and also easy and fast to make; I want to learn this final last step for pen vaporizers.
Sorry, we haven't experimented with Propylene Glycol.
I did some testing last night. It is very easy to thin bho to the desired consistency by submerging a small beaker in a 140 degree water bath. You add the propylene glycol and then dissolve the winterized bho into it. Takes about 10 minutes. A syringe is then used to add the oil to the cartridge. Worked flawlessly! Ratios run from 1 part pg to 1 part bho to maybe 1 part pg to 4 parts bho for a much thicker oil. Altus Optimus pen vapes need a really thick oil; other types need a more fluid consistency. It's important to use the best propylene glycol you can get. Available on Amazon and eBay for cheap. Yay!
How would one go about finding parts and components necessary to design and build a portable vaporizer pen of there own... I know that may seem like a elementary question but I am interested in the idea of toying around with making my own but have no idea where to find the parts to do so.. any tips or places you ould point me to? thanks!!!
You can find the mix and match pieces at http://www.cloudsofvapor.com/store/130-cartomizers/65-boge-cartomizers.html From there, I guess it depends on what you had in mind,
I am the owner of I-Con Vape an Arizona based, pen style vaporixor company. We have what i believe to be the best cartridge to use for concentrates, as ell as one for flowers and one for tinctures. Our conentrate tank( the I-CON Pro) is a ceramic chamber with heating element, no wick system what so ever. I would be honored to send you one. It is the least I could do for the wealth of knowledge you have bestowed upon us all. Let me know where to send one for you guys!---Thanks again for this site!
Thanks for the good thoughts and offer Ryan! We would be delighted to test your pen and I sent you our mailing address! Peace, GW
I use my Smoktech Redux (clearomizer) cut the metal tube low profile exposing the heating element and wick. Trimmed the wicks and you have a small dabbing well. Place your Wax or Budder (do NOT use natural Concentrates) onto the heating element and fire a few times to melt (can also be done using a lighter).
does the fan push or pull out the fumes?
This one pulls the fumes.
Awesome, I need to build one of these, what type of fan are you using to exaust this bad boy?
A 6" in line centrifugal!
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I recently stumbled over a new pen company in southwest CO called the Trill Pen. So far it is a dependable pen without leaky cartridges or battery issues (since early December)... They offer options for carts (flowers, oil, etc) and the guys who sell them went out of their way to make sure I knew how to use my pen and have even followed up with me to make sure im happy!! The price was fair compared to the Gpen and Atmos... but their customer service is what is really winning me over!
Thanks for the heads up Nicki!