Wowza; 2012 made me tired, but it is good to look back on it and assess what we accomplished, before looking at what we covet doing in our fiscal 2013. We actually opened Skunk Pharm Research and registered with the state of Oregon late in 2011, but our efforts were on setting up banking and merchant accounts, with most of our tangible progress being made in FY 2012. This year we designed and built the new skunk shack lab, which occupied the bulk of our efforts, and it is now complete and in operation. Not only a major improvement from my garage lab and home kitchen, but a delight to Grayfox, who tolerated us with good humor, as we constantly trashed our kitchen and rear courtyard. This web site was also done wholly in 2012, with all of its present content, and it has had 164, 264 visitors since opening, from all over the world. We are currently averaging about 503 hits per hour, with our best day at 2199 hits. The response has been overwhelmingly positive and the site well received. Fulfilling a dream, we acquired, installed and brought a new used Perkins Elmer gas chromatograph on line. Gas chromatography plays a significant role in our plans for 2013. Our class presentation suffered in 2012, with our only public class being at National Green Friends, which covered different extraction methods, included student sampling of the differences in the product produced , and was well received. We designed and built the fully automated Mk II Terpenator and leased it out to Specialized Formulations, as well as designed and built the Mk III and IIIA Terpenators. We licensed use of our manufacturing network and designs to Specialized Formulations, who has sold a number of Mk IIIA kits, and paying us licensing fee. That brings me to the favorite part, and that is that we now have income, instead of being an expensive money pit, and draw on our personal resources. Lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu!!!!!!1 Our review and implementation of nail and skillet vaporization, as well as our portable e-pen development was all done in 2012, and we completed the unsuccessful ultrasonic dry sieving experiment, using the Grinning Reaper as a test sled. More on that in 2013, experimenting with music and a sub woofer seat shaker. We completed the design and build of a laminar flow hood for use in tissue culture, which works slick. Joe will write up and post the results in 2013. We advanced our design for a DYI CO2 SCFE system, and developed a network of commercial SCFE operator resources, so that it is a viable 2013 project. Lastly, we completed the designs for an alcohol fractionating still, a dual drum rotary evaporator, and a forced air evaporation chamber, which we will build shortly. I would be remiss if I didn't reveal that we are ecstatic that building a new lab is no longer the long pole in the tent and off the project list. I can confidently speak for all of us in thanking everyone whose volunteer labor made the new lab possible. Whoop, whoop, ahwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!1 Having it off our backs, also brings us to our plans to utilize our new found time in FY 2013. Hee, hee, hee, snicker, snark, snort.............. Our FY20013 new project list is as follows: 1 We will resume teaching classes, at the rate of one Saturday a month, and one week day. Schedule and content to be announced. 2 We will start producing videos and posting them on U-Tube. 3 We will develop our GC process and compare different process results. 4 We will commencing using our volunteer test panel, which we previously set up. 5 We will further develop the Lil Terp and Mk III Terpenator processes. 6 We will expand on extracting product specifically for vaporization. 7 We will complete the acoustical dry sieve experiment. 8 We will build an Evaponator, a rotary drum thin film vacuum purge system. 9 We will build a forced filtered air evaporation chamber. 10 We will complete the Mk IV Terpenator prototype. 11 We will build a CO2 SCFE test sled. 12 We will build an Enabler, compound alcohol fractionating still. And from all of us at Skunk Pharm Research, wishing you a stellar pain free new year!
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hey guys, so i did this whole procedure and it worked really well thanks! BUT one thing i found out after endlessly searching on the internet is Vapeur Extract. If you have oil you want to vape portable then buy there e-liquid and you can litterally mix your oil with there's and boom you can now use your vaporizers!
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Rick Simpson states that vaporizing and re-condensing the oil would produce a medicinal much more active end product (http://phoenixtears.ca/producing-the-highest-quality-oils-possible/). Can you please comment on that and how would you do this process with standard lab equipment on a larger scale (say 100ml oil extract)? Thanks for all your work on this!
I too would love to know how to vaporize RSO for collection of higher purity oil.
Rick Simpson is remarking on the ability for THCa to convert to THC which is shown to be more active. The heating process, allows for oxidation. This is just a process of heating the oil to a crucial temperature which allows the oxygen to easily oxidise the energetic THCa molecules. This could be achieved through vaporisation and condensation theoretically. Seeing as the cannabis oil is not combusted it is still active when vaporised below 170 degrees celsius.. Putting this vapour through a cooled tube and then vaporising the condensed oil in this tube would accelerate thereby accelerate the conversion to THC at the point of smoking.
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SSV Oil Kit is pretty great. Also try the Cera pen, promises to actually vape vs burn on a wick/wire
Hello again ....Having finally finished my harvest, I have some time for comments. I use an oil-well to vaporize, at home. I have read this section quite thoroughly and am surprised to not have seen mentioned my preferred vaporization method. It also occurs to me that here may some health risk with my method that I am unaware of ... so here goes. There is a line of soldering devices made in Japan, by Hakko. What makes these unusual, and one in particular, ideal, is that they are easy to take apart, and the interior heating element is ceramic. The one in particular that I find ideal, is the 'Presto' model. http://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_presto.html. This model has an always on low setting that is almost ideal for vaporizing THC as it is, and a button to get the ceramic element glowing redhot, as well. What I normally do is push the button to get the element hot, and use that to encourage the oil to leave my spatula and drop into the oilwell ... I then allow the element to cool down some (2-3 seconds) and use it to vaporize oil in the oilwell. As far as I know the ceramic element should be non reactive especially on the low setting (20w). BTW the button to get the increased temperature is labeled 'Push High' ... aren't the Japanese ... thoughtful :-)
Thanks for sharing bro! I will pick one up to try!
hi how can butter up my wax thank u
Still trying to develop a reliable process. We seem to have the best luck with reasonably fresh material, and vacuum purging at low heat for an extended period of time. It appears to be a hydrate, that requires some moisture to work, and really dry material doesn't seem to work well. Different strains are different, as is whether it is winterized or not. Try purging it at 115F and -29.5" Hg vacuum in a thin film until the solvent is gone, and then cooling it down, before cooking it at 90/100F under vacuum, until it waxes up. After making shatter, you can also roll it in a ball, and cook it again at 90/100F, so that it blows up into a muffin, and holding it at that temperature and vacuum until it turns to a wax.
"After making shatter, you can also roll it in a ball, and cook it again at 90/100F, so that it blows up into a muffin" I always thought that if it is still blowing up into a muffin, that means there is still butane in there (unless you whipped air into it first?) I group my thin film into a big pile before my last vac to check it that way...Am I over vac'ing? Also, please post plans for the D-Lighter vaporizer or just a few pics of its insides. I am about ready to go half ass my own version. It seems like a great day project and I'm really curious as to how the hit is. The temperature control looks great for flavors :)
The CO2 from decarboxylation will inflate the muffin. Ya, I do need to take the D-Lighter apart and photograph reassembly. On the list!
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I have accumulated about 2.5 oz of high quality vaporized bud, I am looking for something to do with it or should I just flush it?
It makes an excellent pain relief and even sleep med.
Topical pain relief? What would be the best process to go about achieving this? Thanks!
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/holy-anointing-oil-and-holy-shit/
Could I use the vaped material for the oral oil? Also, would you recommend doing a BHO extraction vs another type of extraction method, do I need to prepare the vaped material before extraction?
Yes, you can make a sedative oral oil from vaped material. BHO is a good way to do it. Material ground for vaping, should work as is for extraction
Just got my domeless nail... Now I need a bubbler like yours.... Do you sell or does specialized sell bubblers?
We don't but Specialized Formulations does.
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Impressive accomplishments and goals! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the good thoughts!
Hey Skunk Pharmers. Thanks for a wonderful year of exceptional posting. We at the Ommp Pay it Forward site are looking forward to another busy year of new and enterprising ideas come to Formation, EK
Thanks for the support in 2012 bro, and also looking forward to another year in partnership! Keep up your own excellent work!!
Also, was your highest traffic day about 20 days ago? My bad :P http://www.reddit.com/r/CannabisExtracts/comments/14lnde/without_a_doubt_the_best_resource_on_the_internet/
12-28-2012 was our high day at 2199 hits. 12-10-2012 was 2099 hits.
http://www.reddit.com/r/CannabisExtracts/comments/15l9wl/idea_for_rcannabisextracts_please_upvote_for/c7nijk7 Yeah, that may have been partially my fault too. How many hits were you averaging pre 12-10-2012? I'm trying to get a feel for how many visitors are bouncing over from reddit, just out of curiosity.
Hard to say, as we range from an average day around 1200 hits to over 2000, usually on holidays when more folks are home on the computer. I have forgotten what our previous high day was, but it was in the neighborhood of 2000 hits. Thanks for spreading the good word!
I think you meant assess, not access...Not sure though. Hoping that 2013 is as fulfilling for you and your team as 2012 was. Best wishes, be well.
Thanks bro, this damn computer can't spell! GW
hey i have a vape pen and i find it to have a kinda chemical taste? cant really elaborate on it but every pen i have tried so far has it. do you guys have any experience?
We don't use either glycerin or Propylene Glycol, so the chemical tastes that we experience, is a growing phenolic taste as the contents of the cart are used up. Cannabinoids are phenols, and as we evaporate away the lighter cannabinoids and terpenes, we are left with the longer chained, higher boiling point constituets, which taste ever more phenolic.
Great info. You mentioned using reclaim oil for oral meds. Do I have to decarb first or is it already decarbed. Do I need to extract using oil(coco) or just take it straight. Trying to get the maximum sedative effect
It is already decarboxylated. We reclaim using ethanol and mix the reclaimed oil with coconut oil. Reclaimed oil is highly sedative, so you are in luck!
One more quick query. Does the coco oil need to be heated? Thanks a ton!(couple grams anyways)
Not sure what you are using the coco nut oil for in relationship to vaporizing. Could you elaborate on your question?
In order to extract canniboids and make orally active.(similar to the extracting with oils thread) must I heat the oil and reclaim mixture. Don't want to vape, I want to make a tinture
Virgin oil must be decarboxylated to be orally active. Reclaimed oil does not, as it is already decarboxylated.
The I-Con vape is a new pen style vaporizer with many options for vaping oils and waxes. Also an herb chamber that with proper usage can vape herb or bubble hash.
Thanks for the heads up!
Check out the pen vaporizers from "gentlemensvapes.com". Lots of options, stainless.
Thanks for the link bro!
Is the Domeless KO nail out of business?
Ummmm, don't know, but I will check. Last I talked to the owner, he was going strong and had great plans for followup generations.
who makes the KO domeless nail V2? do you have a website or phone number?
Our KO Domeless nails were donated by tikonail@gmail.com. We have no association with KO Domeless Nail, so you will have to contact them directly to find out their marketing network. You can reach me at graywolfslair1@gmail.com for Skunk Pharm Research businesss.
who makes the KO Domless nail V2? do you have a website or phone number?
Graywolf is recovering from surgery and I got mine from him. He knows who makes them and will chime in when he is back up and about.
I'm still a bit worried about thermal decomposition from using a hot nail or skillet. My preferred way of vaporizing BHO flake (Pure Xtracts) is to sprinkle a thin layer into the elbow screen of my Arizer Extreme Q vape, then cover it with a thin layer of ground bud and give it a very light pack, just enough to hold it in. A load fills maybe 1/4 of the elbow screen. The elbow screen ends up upside down at the top of the Extreme Q. Hot air blows up through the packed bud, melting the flake. The melt soaks down onto the bud, transforming it into a wick and giving a larger surface for the hot air to vaporize. The controlled temperature means there's no thermal decomposition of the waxes. It is wonderfully flavorful and efficient. When I'm done, I scrape the remnants into my ABV container and store the elbow screen in a small bottle of 99% isopropanol. Next time I vape, I run the vape with the screen empty to dry it, and it is as good as new. I'm still using the original screen that came with the vape.
Thanks for sharing your technique! Sounds tasty! Good point about BHO byproducts of pyrolysis, though your concerns for overheating BHO with a nail or skillet may not be totally justified, as regardless of how hot the nail is, short of combustion temperature, you can't heat the oil beyond its boiling point by placing it on a hot surface at atmospheric pressure. It just dances on the vapor that is produced, like spit on a skillet. I clean our skillets, nails, and wands of residuals by heating them beyond the decomposition temperature of organic compounds, turning it into CO2, water vapor, and light grey ash. GW
Does the ceramic holder get hot on the ko domless?
Too hot to touch, but well within the thermal capabilites of the alumina ceramic
what are your thoughts on the thermovape for botanical or essential oils??
Sorry, we haven't tried one yet!
I have the Thermovape Revolution and it's my new go-to vape.
Really, awesome! Thanks so much for responding. May I ask what oils do you use? Do you know where I could go to look for info on (convection) vaping oils?
I typically use BHO and sometimes also dip it in kief. Heat up time is less than 8 seconds. As for convection vaping, I have the Volcano that allows the use of oils when you use the pad they sell. I have also vaped BHO in a bong using a heat gun and it worked well. Just make sure your heat gun gets high enough. I usually shoot for around 400 degrees as a minimum.
Good points! We will look at picking up a pad and adding our Volcano to the oil vaporizing review. We didn't try it initially, because of the poor reviews we heard on how well it keeps the oil in place. GW
hey ko i would like to purchase a domeless nail where do i get them thanks ovrez
We just tested the KO Nail; this isn't a KO Nail business site. I recommend contacting them at tikonail@gmail.com, to find out details on how to get one. Peace! GW
hey KO i would like to know where to purchase these domeless nails thank you Ovrez
I'm not sure how often KO might be cruising this site, so you might try them at tikonail@gmail.com.
Thank you very much for the KO V2 review Skunk Pharm we are always stocked for you all to test and do some R&D with our products and will continue sending them your way! Every1 here at KO is excited for this new version. Also, Thought I would include I saw in the pictures that the top bowl is resting all the way down against the ceramic. Because we jumped into sales right away to provide these to patients we have not included instructions yet for this V2. I wanted to let everyone know that in the near future direction for use will be included. But for now just wanted to let everyone know that the top bowl height is adjustable. You can thread it up and down into the ceramic adaptor and use the nut to adjust with the height to make it tight. Use can be done at any level, however if you raise the top bowl off of the ceramic adaptor more, you can use the top extruded heat fins on the ceramic part to grab and pull the bowl if your are into clearing your piece. This does not really need to be done with essential oils however this is something which we have build into the V2 part for those who wish to have this feature. Thank you again, Skunk Pharm keep up all the hard work! Sincerely, KO - Founder and producer of KO Domeless Nails
Our pleasure brother KO, we'uns just love trying out new thangs! Our kind of hard work! Hee, hee, hee............. Thanks for the input! My photography shows it poorly, but I adjusted both of the nails so that the bowls were about .050" off of the top of the ceramic, to block convection heat transfer, but experimented with no further adjustments. What air gap do you recommend for best performance?
Its all good and I think the photography was also done real well. But yes, I now see the 0.05" off, must have been too quick of a glimpse last time. The thread length its self is 1.50" long so I left plenty of length for the user to find what is right with them and their setup however I would recommend threading the KO into the ceramic adaptor anywhere from 0.4" to 1.0" this will leave plenty of room from the top of the ceramic piece to the bowl preventing any heat transfer to the ceramic from the heating element. I hope this helps a bit but feel free to reply with any question if you have them, all is real busy down here but I will continue to Check in on Skunk Pharm for questions, comments and feedback these comments when im in the area (: Thanks again Skunk Pharm all you hard work is much appreciate, Keep it up im always sending you all good vibes from Cali. Sincerely, KO Also, for purchasing as of now I am not selling them individually or directly, I will be setting up a webcite as soon as I get a few free minutes however. But until then you can find them on Hawaiianholysmokes.com. Thanks again, hope everyone enjoys and finds this new tool helpful.
Thanks for the instructions and good thoughts KO! Good luck and keep up the good work!
great stuff m8 a credit to yis
Thanks for the good thoughts bro!
Skunk pharm. i read your thread on ecig methods of oil vaporization and thought if share my study with you. The Farm, a dispensary in boulder Colorado had numerous problems with there cartridges for oil so I was self assigned to develope the perfect pen/cartridge for oil. Specifically c02 oil, but any oil that is not too viscous or too think works well. Take a look at this, and order a cartridge for your students to try. I've spent hours on end finding the perfect solution and would like to share it with you since your information has been my encyclopedia for shatter and absolute production. It is a adjustable voltage 510 battery, with a kangertech T3S double bottom coil cartridge. I replaced the coil with a 2.2 ohm resistance coil. My contact information is ianaram@gmail.com and would be happy to explain and send photos. This setup gives perfect adjustable size hits from the very first hit to the very very last. You will be very pleased with it and the entire pen can be purchased new for under $32.00USD. Hope you look into it, I have been told my many dispensary owners that this solves all the associated problems and is the future of oil vaporization. Especially for thpse, like my mother, who are cancer patients and require exact dosage of pure concentrates on the go, without any hassle. I did mutiple studies, and found, on average, 1.0 gram of >90% pure c02 extracted oil to produce 1280 medium sizes hits. -Ian Aram of Boulder, Colorado (Ianaram@gmail.com, (phone contact info removed)
Thanks for sharing